grundsätzliche frage zu den schwarzen balken

Weshalb sind eigendlich die schwarzen balken beim fertigen film nachher unterschiedlich schwarz? ca. die hälfte des schw. balkens jeweils oben und unten ist eher dunkelgrau, fast schwarz aber nicht ganz schwarz wie es von der original dvd wäre.

Hängt das mit dem output bzw. resize zusammen was der rebuilder auswirft? bzw. wie kann man das "optimieren" dass diese balken wirklich komplett schwarz sind (stichwort croppen, addborders, fit2disc) ?

Rebuilder version ist 1.09.3 Pro
CCE 2.70.02.9

Das war schon immer so mit den farben der balken (bei anderen natürlich auch), egal welche version, früher hatte man ja mit dvd2avi und fit2disc gearbeitet etc. da war das dann natürlich korrekt mit dem schwarz. Eigendlich war mir das als der rebuilder rauskam nicht mehr so wichtig weil der komfort überwiegte aber jetzt möchte ich das doch wieder perfekt haben.

Was ich vorhabe ist einfach ganz normal einen movie rebuilden und die balken sollten halt wirklich komplett schwarz sein so wie sie es früher mit der alten methode dvd2avi und fit2disc waren. Das lag doch irgendwie daran daß der cce irgendwie schwarze pixel mitencodet wenn man nicht croppt und diese sind dann vermutlich halt nicht mehr ganz schwarz?

Muss ich da wieder mit fit2disc arbeiten und das script im rebuilder einfügen oder im CCE das format ändern? im cce ist im standard template 4:3 aspect ratio angegeben (habe im cce übrigens nix verändert). Greifen eigendlich diverse einstellungen im standard template wenn man den rebuilder benutzt? ich glaube der stellt doch alles automatisch ein wie z.B. auch die framerate denn im template steht z.B. 29 obwohl er den movie dann mit 25 encodet.

Ach hier mal eine log wenn du die meinst:

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Ich vermute das kommt entweder von meinem billigen dvd player oder vom tv, keine ahnung, man muss schon genau hinsehen. Versuch mal bei dir am TV das bild etwas heller zustellen und guck mal nen 2.35:1 movie, das sollte denke ich doch bei allen so sein, jedenfalls auch bei filmen die nicht von mir stammen ist das ebenso der fall.
Umgestellt habe ich da nichts, das war schon immer mit allen versionen so, egal ob cce oder rebuilder...hmm...ich muss das eben mal kurz testen mit einer original und copie im direktvergleich.


...so ich habe gerade mal mit einer original verglichen, da besteht das problemchen auch. D.H. es liegt vermutlich an meinem dvd-player und oder TV. Naja, dann hat sich das ganze wohl erledigt. Danke trotzdem für die hilfe!