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  • Hi Selur,

    hast du eigentlich schon ne Idee. wo du am Ende hin möchtest?
    Im aktuellen Zustand ist das Ganze ja schon ziemlich komplex.
    (Was bei der Materie ja nicht ungewöhnlich ist)
    Dem Laien wird zwar vieles durch die Automatismen abgenommen,
    die Optionen sind aber für diese Zielgruppe zu kompliziert.
    Der Experte wird durch die og. Automatismen eher behindert,
    weil man manchmal nicht richtig eingreifen kann.

    Grüßle Pitti

  • Zitat

    Im aktuellen Zustand ist das Ganze ja schon ziemlich komplex. ... Dem Laien wird zwar vieles durch die Automatismen abgenommen, die Optionen sind aber für diese Zielgruppe zu kompliziert.

    Einfacher wird es sicher erst wenn sx264 einen Featurefreeze erhält und man eventuellen Einsteigern Profile an die Hand geben kann und eine Anleitung&Co schreibt.
    sx264 wird aber sicher nie ein One-Klick-Tool wie AutoGK, es wird (zumindest von mir vermutlich) nie einen Wizard erhalten und sicher eher komplex als simple sein, wobei ich es jetzt nicht wirklich kompliziert finde. Momentan hat man als User vermutlich eher damit zu kämpfen, dass es eine Alpha ist, d.h. das Aussehen ändert sich, Abhängigkeiten ändern sich, Featureumfang steigt usw.

    Zitat

    Der Experte wird durch die og. Automatismen eher behindert,
    weil man manchmal nicht richtig eingreifen kann.

    Welche Automatismen stören denn den Experten? Wo will er denn eingreifen? Kein Feedback keine Änderung. ;)

    Zitat

    hast du eigentlich schon ne Idee. wo du am Ende hin möchtest?

    ein nettes kleines Crossplatform-Encoding-Tool für alle die es nutzen wollen :)
    Crossplatform = Windows, Linux + Mac, wobei ich beim Mac das Problem habe, dass mir da noch einiges an KnowHow fehlt wie ich die Tools auf den Mac bekomme die sx264 so nutzt, das Frontend ans sich läuft auch jetzt schon auf nem Mac (ohne spezifische Anpassungen wie Fontsuche&Co).

    Momentan werden erst mal Features hinzugefügt die Leute brauchen können und verwenden und bei denen ich dann auch Feedback bekomme, dann werden Bugs behoben, sofern ich sie finde oder man mich auf sie hinweist und zu guter Letzt bin ich in letzter Zeit dran den SourceCode etwas aufzuräumen. Hab hier auch noch eine längere Liste von Features die ich eigentlich noch gerne hätte, die aber momentan nicht zu implementieren sind, weil der Code noch zu komplex ist, wobei ich nach und nach den Code etwas auseinanderzerre und übersichtlicher mache. (sind momentan etwa 20.000 Zeilen Code und leider nur wenige Kommentare und teilweise etwas sehr breiten Zeilen ;))

    Cu Selur

  • Ich schon wieder.
    Teste doch mal das wieder herstellen aus dem Systray. Bei mir wird das Fenster kleiner geöffnet, erst nach einem Move wird die richtige Größe hergestellt. Aber nur wenn das Fenster an einer bestimmten Position minimiert wird (außerhalb von Win default?), z.B. obere linke ScreenPos. Auch wird die Position bei jedem wiederherstellen aus dem Systray verändert.<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p> </o:p>
    Eilt aber nicht. Ich kann’s auch so verwenden. :)<o:p></o:p>


    Momentan werden erst mal Features hinzugefügt die Leute brauchen können und verwenden und bei denen ich dann auch Feedback bekomme,


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Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Normale Tabelle"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin-top:0cm; mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]-->Na dann warte ich noch auf die mögliche Pfad-Datei-Container Änderung bei aktiver Namens-Automatik. Aus diesem Grund muss die leider deaktiviert bleiben.<o:p></o:p> ;)

    Gruß gispos

  • Zitat

    Na dann warte ich noch auf die mögliche Pfad-Datei-Container Änderung bei aktiver Namens-Automatik.

    Geht doch wenn man den Default-Container ändert oder wie stellt Du Dir das vor?

    Zitat

    Aber nur wenn das Fenster an einer bestimmten Position minimiert wird (außerhalb von Win default?), z.B. obere linke ScreenPos.

    Versteh ich nicht. :)

    Zitat

    Auch wird die Position bei jedem wiederherstellen aus dem Systray verändert.<o:p>

    Guck ich mal drauf. :) -> habe das wiederherstellen Windows überlassen, k.A. warum das die Position ändert, werde es jetzt aber so machen, dass ich beim Verkleinern die Position speichere und sie später wieder herstelle. :)
    </o:p>

  • Also wenn die Automatik aktiviert ist:<o:p></o:p>

    1.) <!--[endif]-->Container kann nur visuell geändert werden (Betrug :D). Raus kommen tut das was vor dem öffnen gewählt war.<o:p></o:p>
    <!--[if !supportLists]-->2.)<!--[endif]--> Ich kann den Pfad oder Dateinamen nur noch umständlich ändern.



    <o:p></o:p>

    2 Mal editiert, zuletzt von gispos (15. Mai 2009 um 21:36)

  • Momentan funktioniert die Namensgenerierung wie folgt:
    1. Name der Inputdatei ermitteln (bei d:\test\test2\myFile.mp4 wäre es z.B. myFile)
    2. Standardoutputpfad ermitteln (Misc -> Paths)
    3. Standardcontainer ermitteln (Misc->Encoding, Compatibility and Output->Output Settings)
    4. Output wird dann auf "Standardoutputpfad"+"Name"+"Standardcontainer" festgelegt
    5. sollte schon eine Datei existieren die so heißt wird der "Name" um '_reencode' erweitert, so dass man "Standardoutputpfad"+"Name"+"_reencode"+"Standardcontainer" hat

    Mir ist bis dato aber nicht klar geworden wie Du es besser finden würdest. :)

    Cu Selur

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    Mit Automatik kann ich aber gar nix mehr oder nur noch umständlich (Automatik aus) den Pfad, Dateinamen oder Container ändern.


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    Zitat

    </o:p>Das mit dem Pfad finde ich sehr umständlich, und der Name geht eben gar nicht.

    Wenn man alles manuell festlegen will welchen Sinn hat den dann das generieren?
    Wäre es dann nicht sinniger den Output manuell anzugeben?

    Cu Selur

    Ps.: Weiß jetzt wo das Problem beim Positionieren ist, weiß nur leider noch nicht wie ich es fixen kann. ;)

  • <o:p>
    Wäre es dann nicht sinniger den Output manuell anzugeben?


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Dies hat nix mit deinem Toll zu tun, gilt für mich bei allen Programmen, und ich kann da auch nur für mich sprechen.<o:p></o:p>

    Sollte man vielleicht eine Umfrage dazu starten. :)<o:p></o:p>

    Gruß gispos <o:p></o:p>

  • Ich könnte noch eine Option:
    [] override base name [......................]
    unter Misc->Paths hinzufügen, die man aktivieren könnte wenn die automatische Generierung ausgewählt wird.
    Die Namensgenerierung würde dann wie folgt laufen:
    1. Ist override vase name aktivier und der Basename nicht?
    Ja: BasisName = der angegebenen Basisname
    Nein: BasisName = Name der Inputdatei ermitteln (bei d:\test\test2\myFile.mp4 wäre es z.B. myFile)
    2. Standardoutputpfad ermitteln (Misc -> Paths)
    3. Standardcontainer ermitteln (Misc->Encoding, Compatibility and Output->Output Settings)
    4. Output wird dann auf "Standardoutputpfad"+"BasisName "+"Standardcontainer" festgelegt
    5. sollte schon eine Datei existieren die so heißt wird der "BasisName " um '_reencode' erweitert, so dass man "Standardoutputpfad"+"BasisName "+"_reencode"+"Standardcontainer" hat

    Würde das helfen?

    Cu Selur

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mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-language:EN-US;} </style> <![endif]--> Jaein, für mich.<o:p></o:p>
    Pfad + Name > zu 50% meiner Konvertierungen automatisch.<o:p></o:p>
    Den Rest, selber bestimma wolla. :)

    <o:p></o:p>
    Aber wenn’s nicht geht dann geht’s halt nicht.<o:p></o:p>
    Mir will nur nicht so richtig klar werden:<o:p></o:p>
    Wenn ich Automatik aus mache, kann ich ändern. Warum muss den der Output Button jetzt deaktiviert werden? Vom Code her schlecht, oder gar nicht möglich?


    <o:p></o:p>
    Will Dir da aber nicht auf die Nerven gehen, vielleicht ergibt es sich ja mal. :)<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p> </o:p>
    Gruß gispos <o:p></o:p>

  • Der Output muss vermutlich nicht unbedingt deaktiviert werden,...

    Zitat

    Vom Code her schlecht, oder gar nicht möglich?


    Weder noch, da nur wenig Feedback kommt wie es denn sinnig anders sein könnte und mir die normale Automatisierung reicht ist halt die Frage was z.B. gemacht werden soll wenn:

    1. Automatische Outputnamengenerierung aktiviert ist
    2. Mehrere Dateien als Input geladen sind (Batch)
    und
    3. manuell ein Pfad eingegeben wurde (davon ausgegangen dies geht) ?

    Cu Selur

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Nur das der Button enabled bleibt. Oder?<o:p></o:p>

  • Momentan würde bei einer Automatisierung+Batch jedes mal aufs neue der Output generiert werden, wenn man also z.B. auch noch die Option 'Adjust output path to current input path' könnte man mehrere InputFiles per Drag&Drop sx264 füttern und sx264 würde den Output jedes Files jeweils in den Ordner des Inputs legen, wenn der Button aktiviert bleibt ist allerdings die Frage: Wie soll reagiert werden?
    Beim normalen Batchencoding wie ich es bei #334 angemerkt hatte wäre auch nicht klar ob die Automatisierung nun stattfinden soll oder nicht.

    -> "Genau so wie im momenten." macht deshalb ohne Ausführung für mich wenig Sinn. ;)

    Cu Selur

  • Ich muss mich für heute abmelden. Schlaf mal drüber. Vielleicht haste ja eine Erscheinung.

    <o:p></o:p>Gruß und süße Träume <o:p></o:p>:zunge:
    gispos<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>

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